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on: May 29, 2010, 01:59:56 pm 181 Beat Records community - English message boards / Original Soundtracks / Unreleased italian scores [La Piovra, etc]

Hi All,

I'm Eda-88 (or Eda, as you wish or Eldar)!

I'm from Kazakhstan!

But since my childhood i adore, i admire, i love ITALIAN (and French from European) music from the movies!!! It's just wonderful!!!!

I saw and still watch always many many brilliant italian movies, TV-series... because in Russia (i speak russian) many legendary italian movies always shows on TV, get rleease on DVD, VHS... etc...

You know Carlo Rustichelli wrote for russian old funny movie, very cult for us : "Приключения итальянцев в России" (Adventures of italians in Russia) ...this score is unreleased, but wondrful..
I think it's unreleased because made in Russia!

in Russia, there is a big problem than Italy... there is no big great record companies like in Italy of USA or japan of in France...
Many many many old great russian treasure OST or TV Russian OST still unreleased...
And i don't know why!... It's very sad and pity...
But Morricone's score for '72 metres' or 'The Red Rent' released quickly )

Anyway, i'm always happy when i see wonderful releases every day by italian labels!
It's always happy times for all of us, who adore italian movie music!

But for me always was one big mystery, why so many great OST's still unreleased, or some ost not complete?

Speaking of Ennio Morricone!

We admire TV-series LA PIOVRA, because in Russia or Soviet Union this TV was very very popular, TOP!!
In the 1st season music composed by Riz Ortolani, that's how did i know him!
It was directed by Damiani - who always collaborated with Ortolani in 70's and coupel times with Morricone (Un Genio, Due Compari / Il Sorriso Del Grande Tentatore)!

And all the others La Piovra [2-10] by Florestano Vancini and Luigi Perelli, music composed by Ennio Morricone!

Exactly Ennio Morricone wrote that music, which reminds , still reminds us the story of Commissario Cattani or Davide...

For some reason Ortolani's score is forgotten...
Yes, Ortolani wrote couple of themes, but Morricone wrote more... in each part he wrote more and more music... and many music from 2-nd part reused in 3-rd or others...

Ortolani music released at LP, CD [with Cristoforo Colombo & La Primavera Di Michelangelo]... and we have even some cover version in the "The Genius" Double CD!

Morricone's score also released at LP, at FonitCetra CD/ LP, at German CD's and even in Russian CD in 2005.

But except russian release never , none of another released CD's / LP's included Main Theme, from The titoli???

WHY?!

In the 2nd Part by Vancini, there is MAIN THEME = Tentativo D'Amore + Main Theme [1st variation] - so-called 'Raccordi' according to End Titles of LA PIOVRA -8.

This short cue - is never released fully, unfortunately, we call it 'Raccordi' or "Tema Principiale" [like it was in Russian CD], but it's doesn't have real title. It's 12 seconds of "My Heart and I" track.

In every others parts of La Piovra TV [3-10] - mix of 2 themes = Main Title, La Morale + Raccordi.
In fact La Morale is slightly rearranged with 'mafia' sounds, very sonorous LA MORALE.

Russian CD gave release of this theme not officially i think, they cut it and remastered just from DVD... i believe, because if italian FonitCetra or RaiTrade or LP - never issued this track, how could russian record company ARC-Records issue it?

Yes! But it's better than nothing!
For 90% of Russian people the Morricone's name familiar because of Sergio Leone western themes, Chi Mai (Professionnel), Mission, Frantic... but also, LA PIOVRA...

many peoples doesn't knows many legendary masterpieces of the maestro..[D'Amore Si Muore, Il Maestro E Il Margherita, etc..]...

That's why we so adore this Morricone TV score.!

And I made many notes, mostly in Russian sites/ forums...

Here we discussed since 2006 La Piovra music:
http://www.teleserial.com/index.php?showtopic=13218

We discussed everything, covers, unreleased, arrangements, vocals, reused tracks in La Piovra (E Dover Morre / Nel Carcere from Sacco & Vanzetti // Stasera Ti Amo 2 from IL VIZIETTO 3, etc...)..

Every people always surprised why one of the best themes from 4th part "Morte Di Un Giusto" released, but none of his variations ever released???

Why so ????
There was at least 3 more variations of this theme, action version, which very similar to LA MORALE and other very tranquill version... Often in 5th part when Davide's son ....

Never released on LP or CD! But standart version of it: Morte Di Un Giusto - always released, on each CD...???

Can someone tell why these great variations never released??? It's been used in TV more than usual released version..

it's been reused in 4-5-6-7, 10 parts of TV.... but never released?
I cut all the variations from TV, i could post here the links if it will be useful... if you forgot..
 
I think Double CD is not completely at all, there must be 2 more CD to release COMPLETE SCORE for LA PIOVRA [TV]!!!!

There was 2 more outstanding variations of 'Strana Bambina', always released the version with Edda Dell'Orso voice, but never released another version by VIOLON, used as END TITLES of LA PIOVRA - 6 [1992]. One more beautiful theme is SILENZI DOPO SILENZI, always released as HARMONICA version, but never released SUPERB PIANO version!!!!
WHY???????

There is more and more another unreleased tracks, i've made bootleg and included there all the UNRELEASED TRACKS from 2-3-4-5-6-7, 10 parts.

WHY these variations still unreleased???

MILLE ECCHI - there was great variations, but i think if RaiTrade was the last release, that these my favorite tracks never will be released, is it?????
CANZONE PER LA SERA - flute...

I'm very sad about that! And not only me, every people, but we don't know where to say that, where to ask why.. and i hope here i have a very good chance to get the response, perhaps from Mr Claudio Fuiano or another peoples...

Thanks...

To be continued...

on: May 29, 2010, 01:15:24 pm 182 Beat Records community - English message boards / Original Soundtracks / Re: Spencer/Hill Soundtracks

A lot of the scores of the Spencer Hill duo have problems because it's not easy to get the original master tapes...

I can assure you that we are always trying to find the precious material but sometimes it's very difficult!


Yes, sure, thansk for  your response...

When i watch any italian movie, first time i take into account music, background, especially if i know the composers...

In this case, in Hill/spencer Duo mostly composed by De Angelis...
Well: Altrimenti Ci Arrabbiamo, there was great 2 thermes - i couldn't find them on any CD's or compilations... Maybe it's just reused tracks...
1st one sounds when il sicario coming... from Air.
2nd one is a western theme when Hill/Spencer fights with the gang in the forest.
For myself i always cut inedits tracks from DVD... it helps to enjoy inedit )))))

In PARI E DISPARI, i've noticed the song version of main titles - not used in Goodbye & Amen, but used as song on the background in PARI E DISPARI, when Hill, Salvatore Borgese and his gang plays poker in the night club while Bud Spencer's hero sleeps in the truck.

Eda

on: May 29, 2010, 12:44:21 pm 183 Beat Records community - Forum in lingua italiana / Colonne sonore / Re: Perché?!

Caro Daniele,

Certo, but i made not everything from Google translate...
Something by ABBYY Lingvo - software.  :)

Of course, i definitely should write this speech in English, i just though better to write it in italiano, as i write about italian music!

But yes, sure!

on: May 29, 2010, 11:59:54 am 184 Beat Records community - Forum in lingua italiana / Colonne sonore / Re: Perché?!

Ciao Zenone & Claudio,

Grazie per vostri discussioni!

Non sono italiano, ma sono amo ITALIANA MUSICA!!! Morricone, Cipriani, Ortolani, Savina, tutti...

Ma per me, sempre era il mistero, come possibile, in Ennio Morricone grande TV-OST LA PIOVRA, il mio prediletto TV da Ennio.
perche mai il grande tema : Morte Di Un Giusto - mai essere? Due varizaioni - grande varizaioni, uno e come LA MORALE, e seconda e tranquilla varizaione...

Per me e mie amici - questo sempre mistero.

Al questo forum http://www.teleserial.com/index.php?showtopic=13218
quasi 4 anni con il mie amici, abbiamo spesso discusso di questo problema - e tutto questo fino ad oggi rimane un mistero, ad eccezione di quella di un polipo inedito molti altri argomenti, solo perché devo sempre fare BOOTLEG, tagliare i temi inediti...

perche RaiTrade  - sono sicuro , l'ultimo CD of LA PIOVRA musica, questi tracce non sarà mai pubblicato??
La Piovra, Piazza di Spagna: in questi TV non è ancora stato pubblicato molti grandi temi ...
Molti grandi varizaioni dal  Mille Ecchi., Morte Di Un Giusto, ... / Armida e Ginevra, ...

Le Casse / Gli Scassinatori - GDM CD non completo, Il Vizietto - uno varizaione del 'L'onorevole famiglia' main publicato, 'U-Turn' - 2 nuovi varizaioni del "Bobby" main pubblicato, e quant'altro...

SECONDA!

Il Maestro Riz Ortolani,

Una volta ho scritto una lettera sul suo sito ufficiale, ma non ho ancora risposto, forse si, caro Claudio possa in qualche modo fare una domanda mi allettante anni. Perché le colonne sonore di tanti Maestro non è mai uscito?

Giallo Napoletano
Doppio Delitto
Donna D'Onora [TV]
Uomo Di Rispetto [TV]
Il Ricatto [TV]
Faccia Violenta Di New York
Perche si uccide un magistrato
L'Angelo con la pistola
Sette orchidee macchiate di rosso
La Casa Sperduta ...
.........................

e perche grandi Damiani lavori : Io ho Paura, L'Avvertimento, L'Inchiesta... mai pubblicato sul CD???
Solo "Confessione di un commissarrio..."???

MAI! Misteri !

Per questo motivo sto facendo il cosiddetto bootleg, ho tagliato dal film tutta la musica, più o meno strappare tutta la musica è solo possibile, principale / titoli di coda, altro ...
Ho fatto un sacco di bootleg ...milto bootleg del italiani inedit ost..

De Angelis : Goodbye & Amen, Pari E Dispari... Altrimenti Ci Arrabbiamo
Bacalov: L'Aine Des Ferchaux [ma questo francese TV]
Morricone: la Piovra, le Casse, U-Turn, Il Vizietto, .....
In grande, rare TV di Florestano Vancini - molto geniale temi inediti mai pubblicato, 2-3-4 grandi variazioni del "Armida e Ginevra', .......
ma Perche?

Savina: Pizza Connection, La badessa di castro, 1974, La notte dei dannati, 1971
Fiorenzo Carpi : Mio Dio Come Sono Caduta In Basso (1974)

perche Morricone's "ORCA" - main title with Vocal (probably Edda Dell'ORso) mai pubblicato???
Main titoli??? Si, questo presentato sul CD, ma non main tema varizaione - come in il titoli principiali.
Perche?

perche Stelvio Cipriani musica dal "Il Triangolo Da bermuda" - solo 2 traccie publicato? in questo film sono amo altri variazioni del tema Principiali, ma solo 2 traccia publicato sul Lp e CD...

Why one of the Best Piero Piccioni theme from Cristo Si E Fermato A Eboli, never issued on CD?!

perche?

I'm sorry tell in english, because it's easy, but i'm not italian, anyway i mostly notice about that?
I made cuts of unreleased inedits of Morricone, Ortolani, De Angelis, Bacalov, Carpi...? Why me? Why Italian great lables doesn't issue some great maestro works???
Those ortolani unreleased scores are just amazing! but never released...
Why BISTURI, LA MAFIA BIANCA - never released on CD?! Shame!
Only for this reason i must always make bootleg, i told about it on ennio morricone's online community too, and elsewhere...
in Russia, there is a big problem than Italy... there is no big great record companies like in Italy of USA or japan of in France...
Many many many old great russian treasure OST or TV Russian OST still unreleased...

There was great italian movie IL FRULLO DEL PASSSERO, composers absolutely unknown to me, but OST is great... doesn't lists in any database..
I have no idea where to find it...

GRAZIE - MILLE GRAZIE per vostri uomini come Claudio Fuiano , Daniel Winkler..  e tutti altri!!!!!
Se GRANDI UOMINI!!!! BEAT, Cam, GDM, tutti....!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
perché sono creature magiche tanti grandi non sono stati rilasciati finora?

Grazie,

Eda

on: May 29, 2010, 11:19:21 am 185 Beat Records community - English message boards / Original Soundtracks / Re: Spencer/Hill Soundtracks

Hi all,

Unfortunately most of the cool tracks of "Pari E Dispari" still unreleased, and also, i've noticed there was used main theme of "Goodbye & Amen" - another cool brothers work! Also is unreleased...
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